It’s time for the next installment of “Happier with Gretchen Rubin.”
This week, we have a theme! Creativity.
Update: Elizabeth and I, and our families, were recently in Kansas City together, to celebrate our mother’s birthday. We shot a quick little video to say hi to listeners. Check it out here.
Try This at Home: Save string — which is a phrase from journalism that means, find ways to save your little bits of ideas. To read more about choreographer Twyla Tharp’s process, look in The Creative Habit: Learn It and Use It for Life. Woody Allen discusses his method saving string in this Wall Street Journal interview.
Here’s a photo of Elizabeth’s podcast notebook (string not pictured).
Do you “save string?” What do you save, and how do you save it? Fabric scraps, art supplies, recipes, quotations, ideas for a garden, ideas for April Fool’s Day pranks…let us know.
Interview: Our guest is my friend, the brilliant singer, song-writer, and author, Rosanne Cash. She’s a Grammy-winning singer and composer who has recorded 15 albums and won countless awards.

As we discuss, she wrote a terrific memoir, Composed, which I read years before I met her, and loved. Elizabeth also loved it.
Her latest album, The River & The Thread, a collaboration with her husband, producer, and co-writer John Leventhal, won three Grammy awards.
It was so much fun to talk to her! I was just sorry that Elizabeth was in L.A. and couldn’t join us in person.
The song Rosanne talks about in the interview is When the Master Calls the Roll.
Now you’re probably dying to see Rosanne perform in person. In September, you can see her in Nashville at the Country Music Hall of Fame and Museum. Info here. Or if, like me, you’re in the New York City area, you can see her at Carnegie Hall. Info here.
Gretchen’s Demerit: Here’s the link to the video of the 5×15 talk I gave on “drift“ and a post I wrote about drift. I’ve saved the string–but I haven’t turned it into anything (yet).
Elizabeth’s Gold Star: Elizabeth gives a gold star to Jenna Bans, the creator of The Family, the TV show that Elizabeth writes for. (Trailer for the show here.) Jenna Bans gets a gold star for building a great creative atmosphere in the writers’ room.
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We’d love to hear from you: have you saved string— and if so, did it make you happier? Like Rosanne Cash, have you figured out ways to help you quiet the critics in your head?
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